Here we go! This must be an example of one of those "outright lies" being told in the media! (see Watchtower, December 15, 2013: "Don't Be Shaken from Your Reason!")
How DARE you, Huffington Post!?!
Defaming Jehovah's organization in such a manner?
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JW's and suicide: Huffington Post Article
by kneehighmiah inthe writer of this article commends the work jw's have been doing on suicide prevention.
obviously he has not seen the secret elders tapes.. .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-rivedal/mental-health_b_4788273.html.
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An important question for active JW's
by Honesty inif you and a fellow jehovah's witness went to a house where the homeowner brought up a watchtower doctrine which you secretly disagree with, would you defend it or tell them what it is you really believe?.
either way you are at a loss.. defending something you disagree with is living a lie and telling a lie.
not defending it and telling the home owner what you really believe makes you an apostate by watchtower society standards.
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No offense to anyone here, but I don't really consider myself part of the "JWN community." What do you mean by that, exactly?
I was never a JW, but according to your own words, the public is being deceived by Watchtower publications... does this encourage me to join, or does it prompt me to ask more questions?
Clearly, I was deceived by the WT publications.
I wonder if any JW's have been deceived?? (I think that was the original question)
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Is saying "I don't want to be a Jehovah's Witness anymore" enough?
by DuvanMuvan ini was just wondering.
say you were baptised and stopped going to the meetings, when the elders and people ask why can you just say you don't want to be a jw anymore without giving a reason?
i mean it's not like they can force it out of you and you aren't necessarily spreading lies or whatever they say apostates do.. if anything they'll have to keep talking to you to find an actual reason to df you so if you're literally as vague as possible then what basis do they have?
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Since you're not actually a JW, I don't think you need to say anything. They do not own you, if you were never baptized and declared yourself part of the organization.
Find excuses not to attend meetings. I think you will find that after a few weeks away, it will get much easier. :)
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An important question for active JW's
by Honesty inif you and a fellow jehovah's witness went to a house where the homeowner brought up a watchtower doctrine which you secretly disagree with, would you defend it or tell them what it is you really believe?.
either way you are at a loss.. defending something you disagree with is living a lie and telling a lie.
not defending it and telling the home owner what you really believe makes you an apostate by watchtower society standards.
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(Outlaw took my answer... especially about "change the subject!" I have experienced this many times. I am a curious householder. but never a JW.)
OK, I am totally confused now. The JW's of today started when??
What about the study article in the Watchtower of July 15, 2013, which includes a time line, showing that the harvest began in 1919. Please review the article titled, "Look! I am with you ALL the days."
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-parable-wheat-and-weeds/
Jesus came in 1914, inspected them, and then appointed them as the faithful and discreet slave in 1919. Paragraph 12 states:
Since 1919, anointed ones have been gathered into the restored Christian congregation.
Can you explain this? I am really trying to understand...
PS: Welcome. It is good to see a JW who has the courage to speak up.
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JW blood death in Newcastle , England
by dozy inhttp://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11039189.judge_prevents_naming_of_dead_jehovah_s_witness/.
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"You will know them by their fruits."
At least her family is getting some privacy, but what a sad story! Another statistic...
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The purpose of changing JW names, titles and terms
by gingerbread induring a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups.
i commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'truth' book.. another in our group brought up the character in the orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words.
this was called doublethink and blackwhite.
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Keep them confused.
Reaffirm their beliefs that the GB knows what is best for them, and that they need to rely on the GB to keep them informed during this time of the end.
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"Worldly" Friends vs "True" Friends
by DuvanMuvan inhey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
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DuvanMuvan: Do you mean to say that you are not a baptized member of Jehovah's organization? I know you are running out of posts for today, but I wanted to make sure you realize the amount of support you have found here on JWN.
If you feel so inclined, you can send private messages to any member here. You are among friends.
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"Worldly" Friends vs "True" Friends
by DuvanMuvan inhey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
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I also wondered about your friends. Do you have a wordly friend that you can talk to about your everyday concerns? Not just JW struggles, but a buddy who doesn't judge you... ?
If so, what are some ways you can spend more time with that friend, and LESS time under the watchful eye and indoctrination of the WT Society?
Are there any after school activities that can take up some of your time? It will really help you to have some social support outside the organization, even if you can't leave quite yet for whatever reasons.
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"Worldly" Friends vs "True" Friends
by DuvanMuvan inhey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
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Welcome, DuvanMuvan!
I have never been a JW myself, so I wanted to give you my perspective as a "worldly." I have a fairly high opinion of JW's, as people. The ones I have known throughout the years, have always been very easy to get along with.
Unfortunately, it wasn't until I decided to stop being a Bible Student, that I realized the friendship only went one way.
I found it disappointing, that they advertise family happiness and a better, more peaceful life. The opposite seems to be the case. My family is now a statistic, divided by a terrible lie.
I can forgive and have compassion for people who are trapped in this religion. What I find most difficult to understand, is why JW's do not believe in making peace.
True followers of Christ are not afraid to forgive and love.
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Pioneering: How the GB shamelessly capitalizes on members' worldly desire for prominence.
by Island Man inthe bible likens the preaching work to a sacrifice of praise - praise to god.
pioneering is also a sacrifice that involves praise.
it's the sacrifice of a specified number of hours that wins you the praise of men.. when you really analyze the psychology of pioneering it is apparent that the praise of men or prominence before men is at the heart of it.
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Oh, I remember the fashion boots and the 6" heels!
They can make claims about themselves, but the JW women were the most flashy and worldly-looking people I knew in this rural area.
The hairdos, makeup & perfume... made it pretty evident that they loved to spend money on their appearance.